"Your impression is correct, but a couple conversations can work wonders."

He takes a sip and slumps in his chair a little, crossing his feet at the ankles. "Pagan only shows up to do anything because he likes talking to me, but that gives him a couple times a week where he can't go around makin' trouble. And there's others who might hide away, but hidin' away and not talking to anyone tends to make people disappear."